The Hastings Area School System Board of Education is expected Monday to announce its decision on whether to pick the interim as the next superintendent or launch a full-scale search.
The board evaluated interim Superintendent Matt Goebel in a closed session last week and had no comments or action after that meeting. The numerical results of a 15-question survey to gauge the staff, and community opinions – 122 responses from staff members and 341 responses from community members – were shared. However, the comments that were made as a part of that survey were not provided. Board President Luke Haywood said confidentiality has been promised to respondents.
After the Banner specifically requested these comments, they were provided without names.
Highlights of staff and community comments from the survey follow.
To see all the comments, please go to hastingsbanner.com.
“I believe that Matt deserves the chance!
“I truly feel as though Matt should be given an opportunity here. He has stuck through some really challenging times. He has been visible in the community and I think has become quite enmeshed in different agencies in Barry County. He knows us well and has helped us build the PBIS [positive behavior] system we have been working on for so many years. He can help us continue on the path that we are on because he has been a part of this journey.”
“Not having to deal with him 1 on 1 I am not real familiar with many of the things he has done. What I do know so far is good.”
“I feel our interim superintendent has done a wonderful job! He knows the system, staff, parents and is extremely involved. He has HASS in his best interests and wants to keep us moving forward. He would continue to do that if he were to keep the position, which I fully support! We need someone who puts HASS first and that is exactly what is being done!”
“Matt is so knowledgeable in all areas! It would be a shame to not have someone like him as our superintendent! He has integrity no other superintendent we have had in recent years has. We cannot go backwards again, it’s time to keep moving forward and that will happen with Matt Goebel.”
“I think Matt is doing a wonderful job.”
“I feel like Matt has a very clear vision for the district. The transition to his leadership was seamless because he knew what needed to be done and jumped right in. At this time I don’t think anyone could do a better job. He has proven to be loyal and invested in Hastings.”
“I understand why people might want this search to occur. Mr. Goebel may or may not be the best man for the job-- right now, though, I think our staff needs consistency and predictability. A search does not guarantee someone perfect, either, and I think Mr. Goebel has the potential to do a very nice job.”
“If communication continues to improve and he continues to be approachable while also realizing that he needs to ask about needs or areas he doesn't know everything in, we will be just fine with Matt as our superintendent. These were concerns among the teachers when looking for a superintendent last time.”
“I really do not know what we would expect to find that we do not already have in the district currently.”
“The answer is right in front of you. The last thing we need right now is an outsider with no idea about our school or community.”
“Mr. Goebel knows our district better than any outside individual and I feel like he would do an incredible job leading our district.”
“Matt has been given the opportunity to lead and has proven he is the best choice for our district.”
“Talk is cheap … anyone can walk in to Hastings and tell us what we want to hear! I feel strongly that Matt has demonstrated a commitment to the Hastings Area Schools in his actions and words. He means what he says ... I think we need someone who is willing to stay ... and he is! In 3.5 years we have had two superintendents [and] the one person backing both of them has been Matt! He has passion and a commitment, [t]his means a lot to me! Matt has a lot of integrity and for that I respect him!”
“Given the current education climate, we are best served going with someone that we know will not leave in 16 months when the next job is available.”
“I truly believe in Matt and his desire to lead the Hastings Area Schools. In the last three months, I have witnessed consistency and a level of strategic planning that has not been there in the past four years. It is clear, thoughtful and responsible. I truly feel in the past few months he has offered hope, and [I] back him and his plan. Extremely knowledgeable and does his research ... Matt demonstrates a lot of integrity!”
“When we did our last superintendent search, the right choice was made at the time. None of us figured we would be going through this process so soon. Our circumstances have changed and, while nothing is a guarantee, what we need now is consistency. The unknown is a concern to me, especially hearing stories of other districts having a dozen candidates apply for jobs. Matt may have not been the choice last time, but in my opinion. he is now.”
“Matt has worked hard in whatever capacity he has held. I believe he deserves a chance to have the "interim" tag removed. We all operate on one-year contracts, so I would not waste the time, the expense, the headaches of a superintendent search. Remove the interim and let Matt prove he is a capable leader.”
“I believe Mr. Goebel would continue to do a great job if hired as superintendent.”
“Matt has proven over many years that he has the knowledge to run our district, the ability to lead, and a love for teachers, students and learning. I think he would serve Hastings Area Schools well as superintendent!”
“I feel that Matt has the skills, knowledge, and passion to lead our district.”
“I feel Matt has done a very good job over the years and deserves an opportunity to lead us. I feel that he enjoys being at HASS and has become vested in the community over the years and we won’t have to worry about him jumping ship and leaving in a year or two. and that will provide some much need stability.”
“I feel we have not had great success in maintaining a consistent superintendent position over the past 6 years. I have seen these positions hired from within and outside searches. In this instance, with the pandemic, I feel we should continue with leadership that knows our history and staff needs. However I also believe we need new vision that will promote and move our district forward into new developing educational approaches. This may mean looking outward eventually.”
“Absolutely not. Look where that landed us last time. We owe this to Mr. Goebel. He's been loyal to us and we owe the same to him. He has earned the right to be our superintendent.”
“I was sad to see Dan leave, he seemed like a great fit. I'm not sure that there are better candidates out there that would be willing to come to Hastings. The job is vast, the pay is not great. We will struggle to find educators at all levels as people retire. We need a foundation or some way to increase wages. Our wages and benefits have eroded significantly over the past decade and have not kept up with the cost of living.”
“Matt and Beth seem to have a good working relationship. I think they could lead us going forward.”
“I feel that Matt provides the leadership and character traits that would make him a fantastic choice for our next superintendent moving forward.”
“We need someone who is devoted to Hastings, knows the community, staff, and students, and has shown us that they are invested and here long term.”
“Matt has always been approachable, easy to talk to, quick to respond, encouraging, realistic, and fun. I think he’s a great asset to this community and our district.”
“He has done well for what time he has been in this position. An outside person could not help us because they are not one of us.”
“Matt has a clear understanding of our district needs and has been committed to serving HASS for several years. I believe his decisions, practices and policies greatly support the dynamic plan for our district.”
“Mr. Goebel has been with Hastings for longer than any past superintendent since Carl Schoessel. We need a leader who knows and embraces Hastings Area Schools’ vision, finances, staff, students, curriculum, past practices, and community. I think it's about time that we give Matt a shot at showing us the great things he is capable of."
“It is my greatest hope that if the school board makes the decision to appoint Matt as our new superintendent that we make it financially worth his while to stay at Hastings. I may have missed it somewhere, but I was disappointed that the board did not up the ante for Dan Remenap to try to retain him at Hastings. I realize that the offer from TK was substantially more than Hastings probably could afford, but it felt like the board didn't even try, or was not even interested in holding on to the good thing that we had.”
“The search process is really not a good use of district monies. The candidates they promote tend to be the same ones for each vacancy through that search committee. Candidates are not truthful about their commitments to the district, and you don't necessarily get a candidate with any positive experience as a superintendent (e.g., our last superintendent was a high school principal; other superintendents that apply are often on their last year of their contract and not being renewed.) experience only counts if it was a positive experience. Matt has proven he knows the district and its needs. Why start over again?”
“I think we have a great fit right here and should give Matt a chance if he can give us a commitment. It just is too costly to go to outside searches and I'm not entirely sure there would be anyone better at this time.”
“I think it's good to have options for the best possible solution for Hastings High School.”
“We have our guy! Not only is Matt the right person for the job, there is a superintendent shortage, and we are not going to find a better candidate that knows what he knows about our district. We have not missed a beat since he was put in this position because he already has such a great handle on things. After this pandemic, we can't afford to lose time while someone learns our district, our staff, our HEA, or our community. We need to continue to move forward! Matt Goebel is the right choice for Hastings Area Schools.
“Thank you for asking our input. However, I do not want this to become a ‘popularity contest.’ In the role that Matt has worked in, he was often made the ‘bad guy’ who delivered the tough information to staff. He was made to do the dirty work, such as deliver the discipline to staff, develop IDPs for teachers, negotiate with the unions, etc. … But he was told to do these things by his superintendent. Matt often did the superintendent's job and assumed that role because it was delegated to him. He was then thrown under the bus when something went wrong, but he was just doing what he was told. Administrators witnessed this happening during admin meetings. He was treated horribly in front of us, even while he was present, and also behind the scenes. But Matt held his head high for several years and never lashed back. He was so incredibly professional and never said a bad word about his boss. Please know that the Board of Ed has not been given a fair or accurate description of what Matt Goebel did or has done for this district by past superintendents. He has been the heart or center of our district for a long time and now he deserves to benefit from all of his hard work.”
“The superintendent is a very important part of our district, but we paid a lot of money during our last search and got an individual who was willing to leave in the middle of the year. I would not want to waste this money if we already have someone willing and able to do this job well.”
“Matt is a great fit for superintendent in that he has been the most consistent leader in our district for the past 8 years. He has a strong knowledge of the history of our district, understands the stakeholders in the community, and cultivates positive relationships with staff members. Matt has been instrumental in bringing the MTSS Framework to HASS, and through his leadership, we have been recognized multiple times at the state level for our implementation of MTSS. Matt has been very supportive of staff during this pandemic, and has extended flexibility to staff members to do what is best for kids during the past 11 months. If we did an outside search once again for a new superintendent, we would be wasting a valuable talent right here … [one] who has shown longevity, consistency, leadership, and strong problem-solving skills.”
“When I have interacted with Mr. [Goebel], I have found him to be very respectful, a great listener and someone who seems to have the best interest of staff and students in mind. He is good at asking questions and trying to understand what's going on. He expects staff to work together before making decisions so staff involved are on the same page and in agreement. He takes interest in both staff and students and converses with them easily. He is kind and gives thought to decisions. If he doesn't know an answer, he asks questions to find out.”
“It takes time and energy to search for a candidate that could be better spent investing in someone that has proven themselves right here in Hastings. If Matt wants the position, I would feel lucky to have him as a leader … to be able to promote the community awareness and leadership we have so missed over the years.”
“I think Matt is great and has proven his dedication to Hastings. As a newer teacher, he heard me through and helped me reach my goals about 5 years ago, and I feel like I could still rely on him today to help me reach any goal I set for my classes. I think he has serious experience and knowledge of the inner workings of HASS and will help us continue to be stronger and more stable. I do not think it is worth it for us to go through the mess we just went through again when we have a fully able and dedicated individual ready to step up and take the reins!”
“We have wasted so much money on superintendent searches, it seems preposterous to continue to spend money on a search, such as we did with our last superintendent who was so easily swayed to leave us. Especially when we have Matt who is doing an amazing job already.”
“I feel that we have not selected Matt as our superintendent the past two times so why would the board suddenly feel that he is the best person for the job now? I heard the board say that he is committed and has stuck with Hastings. He has been a finalist and hasn't gotten other jobs; he isn't here for the lack of trying to get out.”
“Matt is a known quantity. He has been with the district through at least three previous superintendents. Is he the best one out there, who knows? But the monies the district has spent on our searches have not always productive.”
“Since Goebel has been passed up for the Hastings Superintendent role, and several other districts as well; I believe most community members will feel we ‘settled’ with him. Please consider his age and how many more years he has until retirement. Once he is in a superintendent role, he will probably be there until he retires. People generally do not change, and we will end up with a overbearing, demeaning, and disrespectful leader in our district for many years to come. Please consider all options!”
“What a tough question and I don't envy you the decision. We have not had the best luck with our last three searches.”
“Please consider looking at other candidates for superintendent. I think most community members are unaware of Matt Goebel's abilities. We need someone that everyone in this district can work with and feel comfortable approaching with concerns.”
“Both Beth and Matt seem to have done a great job in the last 4 months. Both have really stepped up to the plate. Matt now has the position that he has been seeking for several years. We can't wave a magic wand and see how long a superintendent will stay with our district. I don't think we need an outside search right now.”
Comments from the community follow:
“Please hire a conservative. Our school system is overrun with liberals who are ruining our children's lives with their fear of COVID and their liberal indoctrination of our kids. Keep politics out of the classroom.”
“I think Mr Goebel is a great superintendent. He cares about the students he listens to the parents.”
“Anyone from outside of town wouldn't have as much heart or commitment into our schools or community – unlike someone from our town does.”
“I don't feel Matt is the answer for our superintendent. He is just a salesman personality. He is disrespectful to staff. He puts things off. I am not saying at all he has an easy job nor would l want it. I do not feel he is what is best for our district. We need to look other places.”
“Find someone who's already invested in HASS.”
“I know that a lot of thought was put into this survey, but truly, he has been in the interim position for about 2 months. I am not sure anyone can be reviewed in 2 months.”
“I think Matt is doing a great job.”
“We may lose him for good if not hired as superintendent.”
“I think Matt would make a great permanent superintendent. He has been overlooked for this position multiple times and has still stuck with our district and students, giving them his best effort. He has immersed himself in our community and in my opinion has earned this position!”
“He has been nothing but hold steady on the same course.
“This survey is not ‘short.’ Most people don't want to spend this much time on a survey. Most people do not know the answers to these questions. The general population does not work with the superintendent enough to know. The superintendent is the least of our worries. We will never have good leadership until the community better supports the district and the teachers/administration/community work better together. Bad leadership begets more bad leadership. The school board needs to step up and be more visionary and progressive if we want to attract and keep a good leader.”
“We need staff with vested interests in our district. Not people from outside that are just going to leave once retirement age shows up or a ‘better’ offer arrives on their desk.”
“Having someone that is already involved in the school system and showing interest in the position, has the qualifications should be able to be considered and given the opportunity to try to be successful in the position.”
“From my personal interactions and viewing of monthly board meetings, Mr. Goebel is always prepared and knowledgeable for the discussions that are to take place, receptive to feedback and willing to partake in discussions. It is my opinion that it would be a waste of time and money to conduct an external search and a waste of Mr. Goebel's institutional knowledge of the position and dedication to the Hastings Area School System to not promote him from interim superintendent.”
“I feel like our kids have no idea who their superintendent is or what they do. Maybe a little more involvement with them would help our superintendent get a grip on what are kids need. It is easy to get hear say but to see it would help. This is not about our current intern at all. He is doing a great job this is more about every superintendent.”
“I feel that Mr Goebel has proven himself in the role, even on sudden notice. He has handled the transition with fairness, dignity and poise.”
“Honestly Matt knows what he is dealing with in Hastings. Do you really think if you go with an outside search that is going to produce someone better that is going to stay more than a year? In the time we have been in the community there has six superintendents in 10 years! It is a stepping stone for people (Dan) or someone is going to retire and riding out their last few years (Carrie). There are quality educators here and students can get a quality education, but the Hastings community at large doesn’t support or value education.”
“I am uncertain we need to go outside. We just do not know enough about Matt’s abilities to perform at this time to rule out other options.”
“I think at this time, if Matt is being considered, we should give him time to perform before moving forward. Let things settle down and show the district how he will handle everything, showing he can act in the best interest of the district and school and not in his own personal way or agenda.”
“I believe that Mr. Goebel possesses the skills necessary for the position. I have had excellent interactions with him. I will be eternally grateful to him for stepping in and running our district at such a crazy time. I appreciate his demeanor and dedication to the job and our school. My only hesitation is that he does not live in the district. I believe that it is difficult to lead a district when one is not part of the community.”
“I feel Matt has the best interest of the students at heart and getting them back to normal as soon as possible.”
“I’d like to see the interim superintendent show a little more love to students and staff.”
“No, I think he will be a great person for this position.”
“We tried that. Let's try promoting someone who has shown his commitment to our kids.”
“I have really enjoyed working with Matt over the last seven years. He has been a solid, dependable person who has been easy to work with. Having worked with numerous districts and superintendents in SW Michigan over the last 18 years, I have found Matt to be personable, empathetic, and easy to work with. I would prefer to stick with Matt than to risk doing a search and having someone new start in the middle of COVID.”
“I don’t know how you can give accurate answers to these questions after only two months ... I don’t think we should just hand over the job to anyone, they should have to apply and interview again with others.”
“I have not had much time to interact with Mr. Goebel. I just don’t feel like this year has been a very good or productive year for any of the students, especially the seniors! They have had no experiences this year! Nobody has even tried anything to give them the anything this year! It has been a horrible year. I understand that the Corona virus has an impact but there could’ve been more done!”
“I find it hard to judge to much with the current COVID situation on how Matt is doing. From watching school board meetings and reading district letters he seems to have the students in his best interest. My concern with seeking someone outside our district is their loyalty to our town and students. We need someone to stay and make a difference. Matt has been in our district for a while and seems to have that loyalty.”
“If you decide you need to, find someone local.”
“Unfortunately, I don't even know who the interim superintendent is let alone what one does exactly. I think the public being surveyed should be provided examples of policies and procedures that are implemented by this position in order to make opinions.’
“No. We are honestly tired of the process of trying to find a good fit when we seem to only get burned.”
“Matt has been in our district in numerous roles for quite a few years. We do not know Matt personally but we see that even though he is required to live in GR because of his kids’ schooling, he has invested himself in our schools and our community. He understands the people of our town – the yes and the no voters. He has applied for this role and not gotten it, yet he didn’t leave to find something better. He stayed. That says a lot. He appears to want to be part of our schools and community and has stepped up to demonstrate that. We hope he will be given the chance to serve as our new superintendent and that he can help us to continue to move forward in positive ways.”
“I sure hope our current superintendent is not leaving. That would be a very sad day.”
“That has been a complete failure lately … a real waste of time and money. Why would we even consider doing that, knowing the challenges of getting someone that wants to Hastings and would stay for a while.”
“We already have someone that has remained despite not getting the sup position in the past and has many years of experience in our district, displaying his level of commitment. He has the support of educators. It seems a waste of time and money to look for someone else.”
“I feel that the district needs to do an outside search as we have always done. We have found there were other candidates that fit our school districts needs better than the interim.”
“He ... keeps information to himself, bad people skills. Plays the part for his own beliefs.”
“I would like to see Matt Goebel step into the superintendent role at HASS.”
“I have not spoke to him with any of the issues you talk about so I feel he is taken care of them.”
“It is my opinion the best thing for our school district is to hire a superintendent that will be here for the long haul. I feel this would be better accomplished by hiring someone within our school district currently. They have already devoted their time, energy and lives into our schools and students and typically not just looking for every opportunity to jump ship to a different school district. I feel the best thing for our district is to find someone that has the knowledge of how to do the job to the best of their ability, ability to learn and adapt and empower staff and students for success.”
“The current interim superintendent is doing an excellent job, and it makes very little sense to embark on an expensive job search for a replacement when he has shown already his dedication to this community.”
“Why would we want to put all our eggs in one basket without seeing what else is out there? A fresh set of eyes and ears may be just what this district needs. What would it hurt to conduct an outside search?”
“I think Matt is doing an amazing job, especially given the trying times. He seems very well respected by teachers and fellow board members.”
“No idea who the person is.”
“The interim superintendent has shown his desire to be a part on the HSS, I believe he has played interim super a couple of times.”
“An opportunity to have a Q&A session with parents and staff may provide some insight into the [community’s] hopes and expectations and to Mr. Goebel's position on different concerns as well as provide him the opportunity to sell himself to the community as a whole.”
“I believe hiring Matt Goebel would be a mistake. I think by doing so, the board would be complacent to current allegiances and ‘clubs’ everyone in this community talks about being the problem with our school system. I am not saying he has not done a good job as the interim, I wouldn't really know that. What I do know is that there is a general consensus in this community that Matt's drive to be superintendent is his goal, not a drive to better the Hastings School System. I think we need fresh eyes. That is what made Dan Remenap such an asset to us.”
“I was on a committee with Matt for over a year. He was professional, he was informative.”
“Don't be complacent. Don't take the easy road. Please look for someone who has no allegiances to anyone or any building or any staff members. Look for someone who takes pride in leading Hastings because we are Hastings, because we are Saxons, and because this is an amazing community that we are lucky enough to live in.”
“The last one didn’t work out so well.”
“Due diligence is important. Going the quick and easy route is not always the answer.”
“I believe promoting an individual from within is the best thing for the schools, students, parents and community. This person is ideally well in tune with our goals and ideals as a school system. We need someone who has a vested interest in our community.”
“My husband and I were present and participated in the last superintendent search. I felt Dan was the right person for the job at the time. I believe Matt presents all qualities we need to move our district forward at this time. I recently was involved in a superintendent search for the district I teach at. We were in a similar situation and Ron Caniff, the KISD Superintendent, led several meetings I was involved in. He expressed how the superintendent job is becoming harder to fill. He talked about how many superintendents have retired recently due to COVID and the difficulty of the position. Our last superintendent search proves this. The quality of candidates besides Dan and Matt were minimal at best. I believe it is not fiscally responsible and a huge risk to do an outside search when Matt has proved to be up for the challenge!”
“I pray that Mr. Goebel is hired as the superintendent. He has proven over the past several years that he is committed and loyal to Hastings Area Schools. I feel that Mr. Goebel understands the need for a superintendent that will stay committed to our schools and students. Our students and families are in need of a leader like Mr. Goebel, someone who has always had a desire to do what is right for our schools, students and families.”
“My husband and I moved our young family to Hastings because the small-town, neighborhood schools appealed to us. My kids are a year away from being school age so the superintendent search is important to me. I would challenge the board to be understanding of how difficult this position is. Matt has shown over and over again in this short time he is the best candidate for HASS. I would encourage the board of education to be aggressive in handling contract negotiations long term to keep Matt at HASS. I hope the board of education commits to being all in with our next superintendent in hopes we can continue to move HASS in the right direction!”
“I have no interest in having the district do another outside search right now. I think that the interim super is doing a good job and is probably as good as any candidate that we would see. I think that we have had terrible luck with outside searches and the candidates it yields.”
“This process has procedures that it should follow in order to make a fair and mutual decision for all parties interested.”
“I think Matt should become superin[ten]dent.”
“I think there are pros and cons to looking outside for a superintendent. We definitely need someone in place that has every student's best interest in mind, not just the academically superior and athletic students.”
“While I would hate to see her leave the middle school, but I would love to see Beth Stevens as superintendent hands down.”
“People outside our community simply don't know the district and or the local players to get things done. Also some community members don't trust outsiders. Please do not make the mistake again, by passing up a great candidate, Mr. Gobble.”
“Because the last search was not that long ago, it would be helpful to understand who was vetted and the final two candidates considered in the prior search. Was Mr. Goebel the runner up in the last search and why was he not chosen then? Without all of the data, it is hard to form a strong opinion.”
“Matt will provide stability that is needed for the school district and has proven to be very dedicated to our community for the past several years. I feel as if Matt should be given the opportunity to move the district forward immediately by a commitment by the school board to name Matt our superintendent!”
“I feel as if Matt has proven his commitment to the Hastings Area Schools for the past several years working with different administrations and remaining very committed to the district and this community. Matt has led the district in a time when it has not been easy or under ideal circumstances. I believe that Matt has support of his leadership team, most staff and many, many community members. I feel as if Matt could bring leadership and stability to the district for years to come!”
“You already have a really good superintendent in place. Just remove the interim label and make it permanent.”
“I was disappointed that Dan left, we need a voice like his back in the school, one that won’t let technology or politics get in the way of students’ education.”
“In the revolving door that has been the superintendent’s chair at Hastings for the last 10 years Matt Goebel has been the one constant voice in the admin office. His loyalty, dedication to the district, and leadership more than qualify him to be the next superintendent of Hastings Area Schools!”
“Hire Matt! He’s exactly what we need!”
“This is a challenging time for education, and we need someone who is well qualified and enthusiastic. We are huge fans of Beth Stevens. but Mr. Goebel hasn’t inspired confidence.”
“You should always do an outside search to see what is out there.”
“The last three superintendents were selected using an outside search. None of them stayed for any length of time or resided (permanently) in the district. To be completely vested in our district, I feel a new superintendent needs to be part of the community they're serving.”
“Based on our last misadventure of obtaining a superintendent (We're thoroughly disgusted) maybe we should look amongst ourselves instead of throwing money at the problem.”
“Goebel was quickly disqualified in the last superintendent search, and has been disqualified in many other district superintendent searches. It will appear we are settling if we accept him at this point.”
“I have only had a few personal interactions with Mr. Goebel. He seems polite and respectful. He doesn't seem to be confident in his decisions. I was sincerely disappointed in the decision to bring students back to school earlier in January than originally planned. He seemed to give in to the loud voices in the community rather than science and common sense. If he had stuck to the original plan it's likely that the high school wouldn't have had to shut down again in January.”
“I think he will be a yes man to the school board, and the school board all tend to be of one mind. We don't need an entire governing body and administrator who will never disagree with one another and bring more opinions and voices to the table.”
“If he wasn't the right choice for the district a year and half ago, why would he be now? What has changed?”
“We attended all the public interviews in 2019. Matt was the clear best choice then for his clear dedication to the Hastings community. His actions proved this.”